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Monday, September 26th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 25 2016, 02:00 PM (10,376 Views)
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Kay

Absolutely abysmal show today. These writers are terrible. Nicole/Chloe scenes were too long. Repetitive conversation we have heard every time they are together. And the "cliffhanger" with the doctor preparing to reveal the results of a paternity test is what they end the show with? Disappointing. Best part was John & Marlena. Steve & Kayla,and the 3 villains even though the "shooting" of Orpheus & subsequent escape by Clyde & Orpheus was not as suspenseful as I had hoped.
Edited by kay, Sep 27 2016, 12:01 AM.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 26 2016, 08:03 PM
Why would Steve think Kayla staying at the house was safe when Orpheus had just broken in, held them hostage, shot Steve and kidnapped their son. Heck the Salem PD would be a safer option.
I would think it would be the safest place to be considering the three villains now think it's a crime scene. Since they are under the impression that Orpheus killed Steve, they would think the house is marked off and crawling with cops/forensics. Steve told Kayla not to even let the guard standing outside in, leaving me to think there's a cop there at all times whether Steve is or not. I just hope the guard's not as gullible as Marlena's was. :P
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lysie
Sep 26 2016, 07:13 PM
anzu
Sep 26 2016, 07:10 PM
You know Nicole's whole speech to Chloe about protecting her baby and standing in her corner would have been more powerful if a. Nicole wasn't obsessed with the person Chloe is protecting her baby from and b. the writers hadn't decided that Chloe's the only one that actually seems to fear the man with the weakest reason why of everyone Deimos wronged. And those lines he had today about not being a hero and no selfless gestures, I just... it's not even that he's being written as a grey character, he is just a poorly shaded pencil sketch. The worst part is, Chloe's reasoning for keeping him in the dark makes no sense... and yet I am still rooting for Chloe and Phillip to raise this baby.

Go Kate for actually pulling that gun!

It just doesn't seem fair that Joey is the only one captured while Claire gets to roam around Salem free without tape on her mouth. One good pop upside Claire's head and I swear she'd be straightened out, Marlena, I swear.

It makes it hard to fear the villains when everyone is walking around Salem carefree like Joey wasn't kidnapped. Even Steve and Kayla were just like "welp he won't kill him." Marlena's sending away bodyguards. Claire is worried about internet service.
I feel like (with the exception of Claire) that they do come across as nervous and on guard...but then they do stupid stuff like send away body guards, leave people alone, and walk places alone.
I think that's what's oddest. Marlena seems scared, Kayla seems scared, Steve sounds scared, John sounds agitated and scared. But then they do silly things and when they encounter the escapees it's kind of like "meh, survived it, back to what I was supposed to be doing." The other half of the cast is kind of just like "gotta find out about that baby" which, even if the story wasn't already pointless, is made even more pointless in the middle of a prison break storyline. I'm really curious how long they can hold the momentum on this breakout without the villains coming off as completely bumbling. Something is missing, especially in the Joey kidnapping. Some kind of urgency. I needed a police scene with a panicked Kayla begging Roman to find Joey with the rest of the Bradys there to support her or something. Maybe that scene is coming though because I'm trying to avoid spoilers.
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Good episode!

A lot of stuff with the 3 villains is silly and makes the characters look stupid but I don't mind because it's very entertaining. Am I the only one who sees shades of JER in the writing? I really like that.

The baby crew didn't bother me today because it was the B-story and since the A-story was good, it didn't ruin the episode. I think Nicole will end up with Chloe's baby somehow, maybe unknowingly.
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lysie
Sep 26 2016, 07:44 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 26 2016, 07:35 PM
kay
Sep 26 2016, 07:25 PM

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Totally!!! :hail: Has she even mustered up a word about being worried about Joey? And honestly what is a YouTube channel going to accomplish?? Like you said, she does not have a career, she's an errand girl. Her mother was setting up bone narrow drives and habitat for humanity for the homeless at her age... I hate to compare but Claire just looks fickle and stupid in comparison.
I think she's supposed to look pretty silly right now, but a youtube channel can actually accomplish quite a bit. But no internet for a little while wouldn't devastate her "career."
Didn't Usher see Justin Bieber on YouTube and that's how he started. And then JB saw the young woman who sang Call Me Maybe on YouTube and told the world about her and that was her big break through.
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Late to the party, but I didn't get to watch the full show until last night.

I didn't feel like Steve and Kayla were "meh" about Joey being taken. I thought Kayla was clearly trying to hold things together and barely doing so. Steve felt a little too calm, maybe, but I felt like that was mostly because he was trying to stay calm for Kayla's sake. Which is fine, if historically inaccurate. Generally, in a crisis like this, Steve is the one bouncing off the walls and Kayla's trying to keep him from doing something stupid. I don't mind the change because I appreciate that Kayla shouldn't have to babysit Steve this time around.

I don't love Kayla being told to rest and/or stay home, but the woman did just have brain surgery. So, it's kind of a catch 22 - if she's out running all over the place, then she's dumb because killers are on the loose and she's recovering from surgery, but if the surgery is acknowledged then she's weak (or being treated as such). All in all, I guess I'll take the fact that she's not in a coma as a positive and just see what happens.

I also don't really care that she's staying at home despite the recent break-in, I just wish they would acknowledge it. Just have Kayla say something about not feeling safe there after what happened and Steve (or John when he was there) could mention the multiple new locks and guards and whatever other increased security. They could point out that Orpheus thinks Steve is dead and wouldn't return. Any of that would work in acknowledging and addressing that issue. Same with the Kiriakis mansion last week. I don't think it's unreasonable that Deimos would consider it safe even after Orpheus was there because they clearly weren't on alert on the day of the wedding. Now they are and have security and guards and what not. But they still should have made that point explicitly.

Anyway, the Black family stuff is good, although Claire is working every last nerve (as I think she's supposed to be doing right now). I agree that Marlena deciding to take a short cut without her guard makes no sense, but honestly, those are the things that I just suspend my disbelief on in these types of stories. If everybody did the smart thing, there wouldn't be a story. The rest of it was pretty good though.

Can't comment on the baby stuff because I FF'd through it. Such a bad story.
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esp13
Sep 27 2016, 09:48 AM
Late to the party, but I didn't get to watch the full show until last night.

I didn't feel like Steve and Kayla were "meh" about Joey being taken. I thought Kayla was clearly trying to hold things together and barely doing so. Steve felt a little too calm, maybe, but I felt like that was mostly because he was trying to stay calm for Kayla's sake. Which is fine, if historically inaccurate. Generally, in a crisis like this, Steve is the one bouncing off the walls and Kayla's trying to keep him from doing something stupid. I don't mind the change because I appreciate that Kayla shouldn't have to babysit Steve this time around.

I don't love Kayla being told to rest and/or stay home, but the woman did just have brain surgery. So, it's kind of a catch 22 - if she's out running all over the place, then she's dumb because killers are on the loose and she's recovering from surgery, but if the surgery is acknowledged then she's weak (or being treated as such). All in all, I guess I'll take the fact that she's not in a coma as a positive and just see what happens.

I also don't really care that she's staying at home despite the recent break-in, I just wish they would acknowledge it. Just have Kayla say something about not feeling safe there after what happened and Steve (or John when he was there) could mention the multiple new locks and guards and whatever other increased security. They could point out that Orpheus thinks Steve is dead and wouldn't return. Any of that would work in acknowledging and addressing that issue. Same with the Kiriakis mansion last week. I don't think it's unreasonable that Deimos would consider it safe even after Orpheus was there because they clearly weren't on alert on the day of the wedding. Now they are and have security and guards and what not. But they still should have made that point explicitly.

Anyway, the Black family stuff is good, although Claire is working every last nerve (as I think she's supposed to be doing right now). I agree that Marlena deciding to take a short cut without her guard makes no sense, but honestly, those are the things that I just suspend my disbelief on in these types of stories. If everybody did the smart thing, there wouldn't be a story. The rest of it was pretty good though.

Can't comment on the baby stuff because I FF'd through it. Such a bad story.
They were on alert the day of the wedding though. That's part of why it's so annoying. They thought Xander had been caught but they didn't think that long.
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Love the 3 villains!
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lysie
Sep 27 2016, 10:15 AM
esp13
Sep 27 2016, 09:48 AM
Late to the party, but I didn't get to watch the full show until last night.

I didn't feel like Steve and Kayla were "meh" about Joey being taken. I thought Kayla was clearly trying to hold things together and barely doing so. Steve felt a little too calm, maybe, but I felt like that was mostly because he was trying to stay calm for Kayla's sake. Which is fine, if historically inaccurate. Generally, in a crisis like this, Steve is the one bouncing off the walls and Kayla's trying to keep him from doing something stupid. I don't mind the change because I appreciate that Kayla shouldn't have to babysit Steve this time around.

I don't love Kayla being told to rest and/or stay home, but the woman did just have brain surgery. So, it's kind of a catch 22 - if she's out running all over the place, then she's dumb because killers are on the loose and she's recovering from surgery, but if the surgery is acknowledged then she's weak (or being treated as such). All in all, I guess I'll take the fact that she's not in a coma as a positive and just see what happens.

I also don't really care that she's staying at home despite the recent break-in, I just wish they would acknowledge it. Just have Kayla say something about not feeling safe there after what happened and Steve (or John when he was there) could mention the multiple new locks and guards and whatever other increased security. They could point out that Orpheus thinks Steve is dead and wouldn't return. Any of that would work in acknowledging and addressing that issue. Same with the Kiriakis mansion last week. I don't think it's unreasonable that Deimos would consider it safe even after Orpheus was there because they clearly weren't on alert on the day of the wedding. Now they are and have security and guards and what not. But they still should have made that point explicitly.

Anyway, the Black family stuff is good, although Claire is working every last nerve (as I think she's supposed to be doing right now). I agree that Marlena deciding to take a short cut without her guard makes no sense, but honestly, those are the things that I just suspend my disbelief on in these types of stories. If everybody did the smart thing, there wouldn't be a story. The rest of it was pretty good though.

Can't comment on the baby stuff because I FF'd through it. Such a bad story.
They were on alert the day of the wedding though. That's part of why it's so annoying. They thought Xander had been caught but they didn't think that long.
They're acting like they weren't on alert for the wedding but you're right. They found out right before that Xander got caught.
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Lovejm
Sep 27 2016, 08:30 PM
lysie
Sep 27 2016, 10:15 AM
esp13
Sep 27 2016, 09:48 AM
Late to the party, but I didn't get to watch the full show until last night.

I didn't feel like Steve and Kayla were "meh" about Joey being taken. I thought Kayla was clearly trying to hold things together and barely doing so. Steve felt a little too calm, maybe, but I felt like that was mostly because he was trying to stay calm for Kayla's sake. Which is fine, if historically inaccurate. Generally, in a crisis like this, Steve is the one bouncing off the walls and Kayla's trying to keep him from doing something stupid. I don't mind the change because I appreciate that Kayla shouldn't have to babysit Steve this time around.

I don't love Kayla being told to rest and/or stay home, but the woman did just have brain surgery. So, it's kind of a catch 22 - if she's out running all over the place, then she's dumb because killers are on the loose and she's recovering from surgery, but if the surgery is acknowledged then she's weak (or being treated as such). All in all, I guess I'll take the fact that she's not in a coma as a positive and just see what happens.

I also don't really care that she's staying at home despite the recent break-in, I just wish they would acknowledge it. Just have Kayla say something about not feeling safe there after what happened and Steve (or John when he was there) could mention the multiple new locks and guards and whatever other increased security. They could point out that Orpheus thinks Steve is dead and wouldn't return. Any of that would work in acknowledging and addressing that issue. Same with the Kiriakis mansion last week. I don't think it's unreasonable that Deimos would consider it safe even after Orpheus was there because they clearly weren't on alert on the day of the wedding. Now they are and have security and guards and what not. But they still should have made that point explicitly.

Anyway, the Black family stuff is good, although Claire is working every last nerve (as I think she's supposed to be doing right now). I agree that Marlena deciding to take a short cut without her guard makes no sense, but honestly, those are the things that I just suspend my disbelief on in these types of stories. If everybody did the smart thing, there wouldn't be a story. The rest of it was pretty good though.

Can't comment on the baby stuff because I FF'd through it. Such a bad story.
They were on alert the day of the wedding though. That's part of why it's so annoying. They thought Xander had been caught but they didn't think that long.
They're acting like they weren't on alert for the wedding but you're right. They found out right before that Xander got caught.
And maybe I'm misunderstanding, but to me it has sounded like they're implying that the mansion always has security....it's just currently ramped up.
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lysie
Sep 27 2016, 08:32 PM
Lovejm
Sep 27 2016, 08:30 PM
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Sep 27 2016, 10:15 AM

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They're acting like they weren't on alert for the wedding but you're right. They found out right before that Xander got caught.
And maybe I'm misunderstanding, but to me it has sounded like they're implying that the mansion always has security....it's just currently ramped up.
That's how I took it. Orpheus certainly didn't have a problem.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 26 2016, 11:59 AM
Lovejm
Sep 26 2016, 11:57 AM
John and Marlena home. She's telling John Claire's upset about her tablet
boo hoo bye a new one Claire!! :rolleyes:
It`s not broke and a new one won`t do any better on picking up internet.
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esp13
Sep 26 2016, 01:00 PM
I know Joey has been as dumb as a box of rocks, but I'm sorry, Claire has now overtaken him for both the whiniest and dumbest of the teens. Being kidnapped, bound and gagged has raised Joey's IQ and watchability by at least 20 points.
Wonder if that would help Claire?
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This was the first episode since last year that had Clyde's theme playing in a scene.
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